Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Sidney Z. Lucas

Sidney Z. Lucas was an art entrepreneur who was responsible for a large number of prints which generate many questions to our shop as well as on various antique forums on the internet. Lucas' prints are those either issued by “Camilla Lucas” or the “Paris Etching Society.” His prints can also be identified by a circular or triangular symbol with the initials “SZL.” Some of the details are uncertain, but the general story of Lucas and his prints is as follows. [Addition Jan. 2010: Lucille Lucas, daughter of Sidney Lucas, has left a comment to this blog correcting some apparent errors in this blog and adding some extra information. Please make sure to read this comment...]

Beginning in the 1920s and lasting until the 1960s, Sidney Lucas owed The Old Print Center in New York and ran a gallery named the Camilla Lucas Gallery, named after his mother. He was in the business of both wholesale art publishing and retail art sales, dealing with modern and contemporary prints as well as reproductions of prints.

As another venture, Lucas formed the Paris Etching Society, where he traveled to Europe and commissioned prints by primarily French and Flemish artists. These were all original, hand-colored aquatints or etchings and they were usually signed, and sometimes titled, in pencil by the artists. Supposedly the runs for these prints were between 350 and 500. These prints can be identified either by a “Paris Etching Society” imprint or the initials “SZL” inside a triangle or circle.

These prints were sold out of Lucas’ gallery in New York, as well as galleries around the country. Most of the artists who produced prints for Lucas are of no particular note and indeed it is often impossible to read the signatures, or even if they are legible, to find out much about the artists. The prints typically have a “soft” feel to them and are colored with pastel shades. The fact that the artists are not of the first rank, that the prints were run off in fairly large runs, and that there are lots and lots of these prints floating around means that they have only “decorative” value. They are attractive, original prints, but generally not collector prints.

99 comments:

  1. I inherited a collection of Syndey Lucas framed gold prints, which depict the months of the year- I have all 12. Does anyone have an idea what these might be worth?

    ReplyDelete
  2. Generally the Lucas prints, of any sort, have "decorative" value. This means that you could sell them for whatever someone would pay to hang something that looks like they do in his/her home. How much that would be depends on what the items look like, considering factors such as decorative appeal, color, size, condition, frame, and so forth. This value varies by location, but you can get an idea by visiting local flea markets or auctions and compare your set to what you see. They have no particular "collectors" value, but this doesn't mean they don't have reasonable value. However, it is their appearance/appeal that determines their value, not their history.

    ReplyDelete
  3. I have an original etching of a tiger. Sticker on back says genuine etching, Paris etching society. Lower left hand corner it has 1958 Syndey Lucas. It is signed by the artist C. Ciyria or something like that. Do you have any more info on this ? Would probably sell it in the future. It is framed with a bamboo look. Would appreciated hearing from you. Jan
    firefly8770@hotmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  4. I have a a Sidney Z Lucas print of "THE AMERICAN NATIONAL GAME of BASEBALL". I cannot find an artist's name anywhere on the print. It is 18" X 24" and is hermedically sealed in a frame that has UV glass (the frame cost $250.00). It was engraved in aquatint and contains all the Lucas markings. Is there anyway to determine its value?
    Thank you,
    John I.

    ReplyDelete
  5. I was lucky enough to find a framed print of a Gordon Setter by Paul Wood at an antique store. It shows litho in USA, and has SZL in circle under Paul Wood signature. It has Paul Wood "Flying Away" printed at bottom and shows No. B-183. I found Paul Wood Artist on Internet and this print is titled as "En Pointe." What is the difference and can you tell how old this is?
    Thanks for any info.
    Jean at jkearney@spro.net

    ReplyDelete
  6. I have a complete book of prints -Bouquets-by Jean-Louis Prevost- published by Sidney Lucas and the Paris Etching Society. There are six prints and an introduction. Any value other than decorative?

    ReplyDelete
  7. Sidney Z Lucas' mother was Cornelia. His SISTER was Camille ( United States Federal Census 1930)

    ReplyDelete
  8. I recently accquired a set of ten prints by Sydney Z. Lucas, by artist J. Gould. Each is a different pair of birds. The birds are not named, but each print is numbered. I do not know what value there may or may not be for them, but I intend to keep them anyway. I would, however, like to find out more about them. Can you help?

    ReplyDelete
  9. I have an SZL marked etching by Georges, la barque au Lisieux. Any info about artist? Any value?

    ReplyDelete
  10. I found 4 3 X 5 (printed image) Currier & Ives reproductions titled American Homestead (all 4 seasons) published by Sidney Z. Lucas. Can anyone give an idea when these may have been done and if they have any value other than decorative.

    ReplyDelete
  11. Lots of questions about Lucas prints and value. Most of Lucas' prints were by artists who are not considered important today or are reproductions (like those after Currier & Ives or Gould prints). All of these prints have only "decorative" value. Basically, then, you can assume any Sidney Z. Lucas or Paris Etching Society print has "decorative" value. Of course, decorative prints can sell for a reasonable amount (cf. post on these prints), but they will not have any real collector's value.

    ReplyDelete
  12. Inherited a supposedly "original"etching by Davril-"Isolated Houses" has a szl triangle with #26-framed and came from great-grandmother's house of relative. Quite frustrating trying to get info and value on this item. Etching seems quite old, sending to Goodwill.

    ReplyDelete
  13. My name is Lucille Lucas, the daughter of Sidney Lucas. Your information about my father is not quite correct and there are some omissions such as his being the first North American publisher of original Salvador Dali lithographs. He also published many other artists including Redoute, Prevost and Barraband, Vlaminck and Utrillo which are all very crisp, clear and beautiful images. My mother Phyllis Lucas started The Old Print Center in the 1950's long after Sidney had his wholesale business in full swing. I am not aware of a gallery named after his sister Camilla but he did use that name in his publications. My mother's gallery did not close in the 1960's. Phyllis Lucas ran her gallery until the day she died and then her children kept it open. As a matter of fact I have moved the inventory to Colorado under the name Lucille Lucas Gallery. My mother's gallery was The Old Print Center Phyllis Lucas Gallery. For more information please refer to my web site lucillelucasgallery.com We do not do appraisals for free so please do not request information about my fathers publications. Everyone is welcome to read our history and look over our inventory. We get a lot of requests and simply do not have the staff to work on our web site and reply to so many questions.
    Mr. Lane I would appreciate your making some corrections to your commentary. I welcome your correspondence with me if you are inclined.

    ReplyDelete
  14. Hi Lucille and thanks for the comment. It is great to hear from Sidney Lucas' daughter! I had added a note to the first paragraph to direct people to read your post for your corrections and additions. This should set the record straight.

    ReplyDelete
  15. I have a a print by Paul Wood that has #56 a circle with a R in it, a circle with SLZ, and i believe its title the Departure only in french.Its about 3' x 2'. Iam thinking of selling it on ebay but not sure what kind of reserve to put on it. Its in good condition, it has a few light spots. Where might i find out what kind of reserve to ask for?

    ReplyDelete
  16. From our experience these prints sell for "decorative" print values and so basically it doesn't make sense to put a reserve on the print above the minimum you would be willing to accept for it. Let the auction decide. If you are really worried about it, then I would simply check out ebay for sales of other prints by Paul Wood (I think they come up from time to time) and then you will be able to get a better idea of what it might go for. Good luck.

    ReplyDelete
  17. I've got seven prints by the artist E.A.Seguy with the Sidney Lucas copywrite. I've read where you say most were for 'decorative' purposes, however, I've found quite a few other reprints by the same artist auctioning for more than a few dollars. Could the prints I have be worth more than 'decorative'?

    ReplyDelete
  18. No. As reproductions of the originals, these have "only" "decorative" value. In terms of what the prints have gone for at auction, that can have a number of factors. One is that there could just have been two people who wanted the same thing and they didn't know or care what was the "right" price. Another is that the people buying might not have realized that the prints were reproductions. Finally, there is the issue of what "decorative value" means.

    "Decorative value" means that you can sell the item for whatever someone would pay in order to hang something that looks like it does on his/her wall. How much that would be depends on what the item looks like, considering factors such as decorative appeal, color, size, condition, frame, and so forth. If you have a really nice print in a nice frame, its decorative value can be substantial even though it is a reproduction. If you go to any mall in the country, you will see modern reproductive prints in frames selling for a lot. This is "only" "decorative" value, but it can be substantial. So your prints might be worth a reasonable amount, but still have only decorative value.

    ReplyDelete
  19. Mr. Lane:
    I have a set of five Sidney Lucas prints (with his copyright signature and the registered SZL in a circle). The prints are of very old carriages, most of them driven from the rear and all with a large wheel in back and a smaller wheel in front.

    Having read your remarks about his prints being decorative, I wanted to ask, since this is a set of five, would there be any additional value?

    ReplyDelete
  20. I have a set of J. Gould on the left side it is wrote Aidney Z Lucas NYC middle no 601 other side is made in USA and under J. Gould name is szl in circle can you give me any infomation on these or help tell me where to go?
    Thank you in advance for your help
    Aletha

    ReplyDelete
  21. I've got an extremely large original palette knife oil painting 4 ft x 5 ft signed "Marie Charlot". In doing research, this led me to Camilla Lucas and The Old Print Shop/Center. Is there anything anyone can tell me about this artist. The painting is a City Scene with buildings and people, maybe somewhere in France.

    ReplyDelete
  22. In googling the names Sidney Lucas and Marie Charlot I found this...

    who is the pre 1900 oil painter Marie Charlot? There is an MSNGroup devoted
    to her, is she one person or a list of people? Her works were commisioned by Sidney Zoltan Lucas an art importer in NY City
    in 1930's. He had a company named Camilla Lucas and The Old Print Shop/Center.
    One of her/his paintings sold on EbayUK for 57,000.00.
    What her/his story?
    Her real name
    born....died,etc.

    ReplyDelete
  23. Mr.Lane,
    I have a Sidney Z Lucas aqua tint print, 1864 printing house square New York. Its has a circular symbol with the initials SZL in the bottom left hand corner. Any information on this piece??? Can't find anything.

    ReplyDelete
  24. Hello, I have a aquatint picture of a view of federal hall of the city of new york as appeared in the year 1797 with the adjecent buildings therto. It has the symbol SLZ in a circle. Can You tell me if this is worth anything. I found picture behind another picture I purchased in a yard sale. Thanks Primo Please reply to Superiorservicesinc@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  25. I recently acquired three Jean Louis Prevost prints that look to be antiques.They are somewhat weathered, but otherwise in fine condition. Could they be worth anything?

    ReplyDelete
  26. As you have posted your question in this blog, I assume they have Sidney Lucas' name on them (he did do copies of Prevost prints). Like every other SLZ print, these have only "decorative" value. Lucas' prints are nice and are based on some lovely prints, but they are still just reproductions and as such have only decorative value.

    ReplyDelete
  27. I want to thank you for the help and info, It has the pencil marked names, It says Le Canal & on right bottom of print it has a heart shaped O and reads Olex. On upper left it says Copyright 1935 Camella Lucas NY USA Its a soothing soft warm print, I have 2 more pictures to try and look it up . Its a lithograph from 1860s Thank you for your help

    ReplyDelete
  28. Iam sorry. I forgot to mention that this one has a tryanular with Sll in side, sorry for my spelling

    ReplyDelete
  29. I too have come across some prints in my Mother's home with the triangle around SZL saying that it was an original. The artist was Philippe and it is titled Vielle Forge I think -hard to make out writing. I understand hey have a connection to Stephen Leacock's family. I finally came across this blog after much searching and to my dissappointment they are only decorative value LOL. Thanks for the concise explanations. Interesting info though!

    ReplyDelete
  30. I have a picture that is noted as an original etching by Bierre that is titled The Road to Berry France. It also has the triangle with SZL in it. Is this worth anything special?

    ReplyDelete
  31. I found a Lorraine Brewer "Exchange Place", but the only one I can located online is a summer view, and this is a winter picture. In the back of the print is a slip of paper describing her art work and said it was a limited edition christmas card. Could you tell me anything about it?

    ReplyDelete
  32. I found a print with the triangle with SZL by artist Pierre. On the print it says "Les chaumieres" and is numbered 25/60. The attached certificate lists the title as "The Road to the Village." Can you tell me anything about this piece.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Cleaning out a trunk that was my mother's I also found "Les chaumieres" numbered 25/60 by Pierre. Either your print magically got into mom's trunk, or the numbering doesn't mean much :-)

      Delete
  33. I have an "original" etching, by either B. or G. Marcel, in pencil. The etching is entitled To Adventure, a 3-masted sailing ship with a triangular SZL in the lower left corner. In the upper corner, it is copyrighted by Camilla Lucas. Any idea of what it is worth?

    ReplyDelete
  34. hi my name is cassandra, i have a painting by a Marie Charlot i got it from my mum as a gift i was just wondering if u know who she is and is my paintin worth anything

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Do you still have the painting?
      Jacques

      Delete
    2. I have 2 large paintings signed Marie Charlot. I was looking for info about them but not much to be found

      Delete
  35. I have one of these engravings with a photo on the lower right hand corner...I figured there would have been a comment but there isn't. The print is of a boat, but in the lower right there is, what appears to be, a little sketch of a man in a hat. Any idea what this is?

    ReplyDelete
  36. I have an ETCHING called the THE ENTRANEE BY copyright1936 camilla lucas ny-usa no 11 signed by BOYER WITH made in paris on back ??

    ReplyDelete
  37. I have a print that has the name nattie something and then szl in circle. Its of a woman in the colonial days. Can you tell me any thing about it. Thank you Margaret

    ReplyDelete
  38. In my collection, there is a large aquatint etching marked with SZL and a #6 from paris etching society. This is a fall landscape, but the main object is a stately house with tall gates on a lonely rutted road. A man is entering the lane to the home - the trees are beautiful and there is a large hay stack on the right side of the landscape in near fields- it is signed in French and titled in French. I do not speak or read French.

    ReplyDelete
  39. Lis biroque, lower left, Pierre on the lower right, 1937 etc upper right.

    Any info for me?

    ReplyDelete
  40. I have a picture that says Louis Breton in bottom right corner, Picture title in bottom left in hard to read french. Top left corner has Copyright 1936 Camille lucas NY-USA. No where on it is SZL or numbers. The picture appears to be a French village consisting of several thatched cottages, a double arch stone bridge over a river and a road to the left and a few trees.

    If you could tell me anything about this it would be greatly appreciated.

    ReplyDelete
  41. The story of this print is essentially the same as all the other prints discussed; it is just done at a later date by a later version of the firm.

    ReplyDelete
  42. FOUND A PRINT OF A SHIP AND SMALLER ON IN BACKGROUND HAS THE SZL TRIANGLE, BUT HAS A SKECTCHED PICTURE OF A FACE OF A MAN WITH A BANDANA AND HAT ON, CAN NOT READ SIGNITURE, IS IN PENCIL, CAN YOU IDENTIFY
    CAN READ SOMNE I THING ANANT LA FONYITE NEXT TO STAMP

    ReplyDelete
  43. I thank you for information provided re SZL prints. I am now a knowledgable lady re my parent's J. Gould bird print. Although it's value is "decorative", I love it still. It hung in my parent's home for 65 years and is now hanging in mine. Patricia A. Prier

    ReplyDelete
  44. I bought a boudoir etching at a yard sale today. It is of two women lounging on a sofa with a cat. Printed on upper right "copywrite 1934 by Camila Lucas NYC USA, and a triangle with the initial SZL. I am trying to identify the artist's name. The signature looks like "Anton Victor ". Does anyone know? Thank you for your assistance.

    ReplyDelete
  45. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  46. Mr Lane,
    I was wondering if you could please assist me. I have a lovely small silhouette of a young girl in braids. The only marking is the SLZ in the circle and a copyright mark. It appears quite old...I would say 40's maybe 50's. Any history or value info on this one? jennidaizy@yahoo.com Thank you so much for your time. I have really enjoyed reading through this blog

    ReplyDelete
  47. I have a 1936 print called "In the Garden" it looks like an original from the Camila Lucas NYC, USA SZL collection. I can't make out the artists name. It is an oval original. I have searched and searched for this on the net and have not come across this drawing. I even looked at all the prints in Lucille's collection and don't see it there either. Does anyone know anything about this particular drawing? Who the artist is?

    ReplyDelete
  48. I have two prints one copy by F boucher one just has Nazzien I think with circle with szl both are of wemen one with flowers around her neck and one with flowers at her right and in her hair right is their any way to date the paintings

    ReplyDelete
  49. ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO I PURCHASED FROM "LUCAS" A NUMBER OF SIGNED DOG/BIRD PRINTS BY LEON DANCHIN WHICH,ACCORDING TO THOSE PRICES MENTIONED IN EBAY, HAVE BECOME VALUABLE..MY QUESTION IS ARE THESE PRINTS REPRODUCTIONS, OR DID "LUCAS" ACT AS AN AGENT FOR "DANCHIN", WHO DIED IN 1939 IN FRANCE...ALL ARE SIGNED "LEON DANCHIN"IN PENCIL, BUT ARE NOT NUMBERED.....

    ReplyDelete
  50. Thank you for the helpful and interesting information. The Artist of my Sidney Lucas etching is R. Barnix the the title is End of the village, France. It is quite lovely and I have enjoyed it in my home for 22 years. The only number I find is 9 to the lower left of the circle with SZL inside. The title is in French on the front with the artist's signature and then is translated on the back. It was a gift to my late wife's Aunt from her cousins from NYC and came for MAE RAE's decorators. It is nice to have the back story on this etching. Any other information would be appreciated.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I have the same print with the same number and markings. Mine has been in the family for over 40 years.

      Delete
  51. Thank you, Chris. My two 'finds' are Prevost chromolithograph still life's of fruits, grapes, leaves and branches. Not knowing Prevost or SZL, I didn't know some one would go to the trouble to have facsimiles made using a traditional medium like chromolithography. He put his monogram right in plain sight though. They are charming but they are off to Good Will. A $60 lesson. Thanks again for the information.

    ReplyDelete
  52. Chris, Are there tell tale 'give aways' on Lucas's reprints of Gould's work? I have an interest in purchasing a 'too good to be true' scenario I feel. A Gould print for several hundred dollars that if it is 'original' someone much more knowledgeable than me would have snapped it up with a view to reselling it in the right market. Knowing the value of originals the seller, an antique map and print dealer could have subtantially increased his return by doing it himself. My next step is to view the originals which are held in one or two universities here. I have made lots of enqiries to try to authenticate the print and while those in the know infer the difference between an original ( which to me is both the image and the paper it is on dating to 1840-50) and a facsimile is like knowing the difference between it is raining and it is not, I need to see 'originals.'

    ReplyDelete
  53. The Lucas copies (they are not reprints, but reproductinos) of Gould actually have his name on them, as well as the circle with the initials "SZL" However, there are lots of Gould reproductions that do not have this information. In then end, the way you tell an original Gould from a reproduction is i) the paper (which you get to know by handling a lot of originals and ii) the process. The reproductions are not hand colored lithographs but are made by some other sort of process. If you read other posts in this blog or go to the Philadelphia Print Shop on-line reference library, you can read about some of the ways to tell a reproduction from an original.

    ReplyDelete
  54. I have a large cardboard cylinder approx. 10 inches in diameter and 14.5 inches tall. There is a metal lid on the top and metal base lined with a felt-like substance. Three Prevost prints have been pasted to the painted surface. It is so neatly done that I always thought it was done professionally in the Sydney Lucas Gallery but as no one else has mentioned this format, perhaps it is a one off. A very decorative object but I'd love to know if anyone else has one..

    ReplyDelete
  55. i have paris etching society print, but cannot make out the artist. maybe you could help? it says j.p. looks like "leco..ty" there is 121 in lower left corner.

    ReplyDelete
  56. I have one of the SZL works, Le Hameau, signed by artist P.E. LeCourte or possibly LeCouite. Has anybody heard of this artist? Did the Lucas Gallery keep archives on the artists? It may be classed at "second rate" but it is beautiful! It's in the original frame which appears to have actual gold leaf. Was that the standard framing for the Paris Etching Society prints?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The artist is Paul Emile Lecompte. See
      Paul Emile Lecompte "Le Hameau (France)" original etching 1920's on eBay.

      Delete
  57. I have 2 prints by DeFontaine. There are labels on the back of both reading "Genuine Etching by DeFontaine. Paris Etching Society, Distributed by Turner, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles. The initials SZL are in a circle. The number 8402 is written in black on both prints. The titles are "The Water-Well Tower" and "Sunrise". Any information/value??

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hi June.
      was surfing this site as I was also looking for more info. on DeFontaine.
      I have also a painting from him which is call "la Dive" with his/her signature on it and also copyright from Camilla Lucas. I am very much intrigue of knowing who this artist is and where he/she comes from!
      Thank you for any answers you made have. petitter@uniserve.com
      Cheers,
      Janet

      Delete
  58. Myriam I have a large cardboard of camila Lucas copyright 1933. and the right side have a signature GEORGE. Any information or value for this paint?

    ReplyDelete
  59. Thank you very much for your time in advance. Does anyone have knowledge of an artist by the name of De Fontaine whom was commissioned by Sidney Z. Lucas. My grandfather wrote in his autobiography about purchasing a work of art that reminded him of a family home in Delmonhorst. He describes in great detail the rendering - However unfortunately our family no longer has this work of art and we would greatly love to purchase something of the like. I would very much appreciate any help you can give to help me find this missing link in our family history. Have a nice day.

    ReplyDelete
  60. I recently purchased a SVL original etching by De Fontiane entitled "Le Vieux Canal." It's in a very nice frame and matting. I paid $14.99 for it. I love it even if it has no monetary value. The colors are so vibrant. Does anyone know how I can learn more about this artist or how much his prints are worth. From what little I see on the internet I think it has no great worth but I'd like to know more about De Fontaine the artist.

    ReplyDelete
  61. I have a Leon Danchin pointer and partridge SLZ in circle. Back of art has made in France stamp. Bottom left is signed Lucas bottom right is signed something in French. Top right is signed d-32...also signed by Leon Danchin. Can you tell me more about this?

    ReplyDelete
  62. I have a paris etching society print by an artist I believe says Martin.It is numbered with a 2 in the left hand corner. I just recently noticed that the circle that always has SZL in it has the S and the Z as a backwards image. The L is correct. Do you know if this an error? If so, would the print be worth anymore?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I have a print with the same markings....a number 4 on the left side. Did you find any info??

      Delete
  63. I bought a couple of watercolors/charcoal/etchings at an estate auction signed by Hoffman? one has the Sidney Z. Lucas copyright stamp at the top left. Seems to be 30's or 40's with french writing. Semi humorous, with some bite. Can anyone help me identify this?

    ReplyDelete
  64. Can some one tell me if the SZL in a triangle instead of a circle helps date a print also the Name Sanner or Sauuer has anyone seen this artist before? Thanks,

    ReplyDelete
  65. I too have an etching titled The Poplar Trees signed by Saunier. The identification tag on the back states that this is an original French etching and displays a triangle with the scripted letters SZL. I can not locate any information about the artist.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. There are many Lucas prints by aritsts about whom very little (if not nothing) is known. You can try visiting a library with a good art department and seeing if they have any of the artist dictionaries to see if you can find something, but do not be surprised if you cannot. They often hired artists who had some skill, but not enough to make a name for themselves.

      Delete
  66. I have a few Currier and Ives prints from This company. They are paper, not oil cloth. How can I tell if they are of value. They belong to a friend. One called 'The River Side', 'Americn Homestead Autumn', 'American Homestead Winter', 'American Homestead Summer'.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. As with all the Sidney Lucas prints, their value is only "decorative."

      Delete
  67. A few years ago, I remember seeing on eBay some hand-colored Audubon Imperial Folio squirrel prints (with correct dimensions) with the letters SZL stamped on the backside. The seller was made aware by an eBay customer that these might be Sidney Lucas prints, and of only decorative value. The seller decided to promptly remove her listings.

    ReplyDelete
  68. I have bought today a large print, etching, almost crosshatch design with large thatched roof cottages in a valley scene, the top right corner has Paris Etchings Society NY NY A, it is signed and has a title, the title looks like La Vallie, signed with an Initial and last name Baruaux?? but not sure any idea which artist and print it may be. The title and signature is in pencil and it is also framed. Is it a Print or Aquatint?? Very nice landscaped subjects, lovely piece.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I do not really know the artists nor names of prints from this group. None of the artists are of particular note, though most did very attractive work. The print is probably either an aquatint or an etching. Both of these are types of prints.

      Delete
  69. All I want to know is what does the number next to his mark (circle with initials) mean.
    I have one by Henri Tourday and it has a 3.

    ReplyDelete
  70. Your blog has been very helpful in providing information on a SZL etching I have which was likely a byproduct of the the Paris Etchings Society - as you indicate I have a hard time making out who signed the etching but I do have the name of the etching "The Bridge over Megeve" - I like the etching which is in its original frame and border - but the backing needs to be redone and the borders cleaned - any suggestions on the process which should be employed?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. We recommend all restoration be done by a professional paper conservator. There are lots of "home remedies," but these all risk doing more harm than good to the prints, especially in the long run.

      Delete
  71. russellregn@comcast.netOctober 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    I have 3 8" x 10" prints (cute dogs & cats) with the symbol of sLz in a circle. They have been in my possession since the late 1930's. They are not framed now, but are in excellent condition. I am looking for both present value and any other info that you could possibly provide me

    Rosemarie Regn

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. There is really nothing to say about Lucas prints other than what I have written above. As per value, as I have remarked elsewhere, the Lucas prints have "decorative" value only.

      Delete
  72. I have two prints (etchings) both signed Gusty in pencil and have the inverted triangle on bottom left. One depicts a small woman walking up a path to a large windmill. The other has two swans on water with trees and full sun on the horizon. Can you tell me anything about them? Thank you.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. We have no information on this artist, so all we can tell you is the general information about the Lucas prints as above.

      Delete
    2. I have four "Gusty" pastel etchings. They are labeled with the SZL label . It also states that "Etchings carrying this label are Genuine Original French Etchings Imported from Paris. The Artist placed on this Etching the Triangle Trade Mark enclosing the letters SZL as a Special identification. An Etching is only Genuine Original when made entirely by hand, and no mechanical process is used"

      The four are named "The Farm Path", "Along the Quay", " Gothique Bridge" and the fourth has lost the label and just says "scene". They were purchased in 1938 by my parents which is marked in my mother's handwriting on the back of each picture. The "scene" without the label does have typed information which has J30704 and a second number 7336. Just thought I would let someone know that I also have the "Gusty" artist and according to the label are "Originals" and not reproduced. Thank You. Judy B

      Delete
  73. I have three prints and each has the SZL inside a circle on the left lower corner next to a copyright symbol. Two of the prints are dog soccer art, or in Europe football. One is titled "How shocking!...an illiterate." It looks like the last name of the artist is Klein and from googling other information I have found the artist is Boris O'Klein a French artist and cartoonist who known for numerous prints and watercolors of dogs getting up to mischief. Prints are generally called "The Naughty Dogs" or "The Dirty Dogs", or "The Dirty Dogs of Paris." How much are these worth? They are in very good condition.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Like all the Lucas prints, they have "decorative" value only.

      Delete
  74. Greetings, A very interesting website on Sydney Z Lucas. And for his daughter to post a comment makes it fascinating...anyway, I have 2 colored etchings which will be up on ebay 12/14/13 6pm PST. Both appear original, signed by Sydney and with the SZL logo, neither have numbers so could they be original? I'm sure there's a lot of art experts viewing ebay and no doubt the closing price will tell all....Best regards, Denny

    ReplyDelete
  75. I have a signed etching by Pierre entitled "Le petit Chemin". At the top left it says "Coplyright l937 Camilla Lucas-NY-USA ". The back of the framed etching has a sticker that says Original Etching and the triangle w/SZL. Can you give me any info? It doesn't say reproduction. My parents received this as a wedding gift , and I love it, but I started to relocate it in my house and was curious. Thanks

    ReplyDelete
  76. I have an etching marked as "The Ring" by M. Deminne from the Sydney Z Lucas Publ.NYC/Paris..Do you have any information on this etching? thanks dan=redwine59@sbcglobal.net

    ReplyDelete
  77. Fascinating conversation about the Sidney Z. Lucas prints and thought it was absolutely great that his daughter took the time to write in. I, too, had been doing research on SZL prints. However, the real reason I am writing today, is...I am also doing research on what I will call a "competitor" of Mr. Lucas, one Rudolf Lesch of Fifth Avenue in New York City whose Monogram, also on the bottom left-hand side of his prints, is a backward "R" and an L. These also have a number just like the Lucas prints do. So, Chris Lane, or anyone else, are you familiar with the works of Rudolf Lesch which appeared from approximately 1940 through the 1970's? You all may be interested in knowing that, after exhaustive research, I have finally determined that the artist whose work I own, published by Rudolf Lesch in 1940, is the same, exact artist who worked for Sidney Z. Lucas in the 1930's, but, under a different name! Evidently, they both employed the work of artists who were French, Belgian and Dutch.
    Love this blog! Hope to hear from any of you in regard to Rudolf Lesch and his prints. Thanks! ep@bloomington.in.us

    ReplyDelete
  78. Mr. Lane, are you aware if Mr Lucas ever produced any prints of P.J. Redoute's "Les Roses" series. My boss and I have acquired two of the "Les Roses" prints which appear to be period-appropriate. they are definitely not dot matrix and appear to be etching/pressings which I know the originals were as Redoute carved and then hand-colored the plates. The reason I ask is towards the bottom of the rose stem on both prints are the initials S.Z.L. going vertically down the stem---no triangle, no circle. Any information you can provide is greatly appreciated. My email is eddie.weathers735@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. These are indeed reproductions done by Lucas. They are lovely, but they are copies, not originals.

      Delete
  79. Sir,

    I have a question in regards to an aquatint I just purchased. It is a piece entitled "Port in the Moonlight" and signed in pencil by listed French painter Maurice Menardeau.

    I am a little confused as to reproductions and originals. The piece that I have is definitely an aquatint that bears the "SZL" marking in the LR corner along with a pencil marked "32" (possibly the edition number?). In the LL corner is the artist's name, Maurice Menardeau, clearly signed in pencil. On the back is the original SZL tag with the title of the work.

    In your initial paragraphs you stated that Lucas was known for commissioning French and Flemish artists through the Paris Etching Society. Could this be one of those pieces and would it be considered an original and not a reproduction? If so does is still get categorized under decorative art?

    Newer to art collecting and would appreciate any feedback that you could provide. Thanks and have e nice day

    Joseph Fitzgerald

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Many of Lucas' publications are original prints, especially those signed like yours. However, Menardeau is not an artist whose work is really "collectible," so while your print is an original, it is still one which--in terms of value--is "decorative."

      Delete
  80. Hello Sir. I have what looks like a drawing signed J or F Davril on bottom right corner. On bottom left reads ferme normandie. No where on it is the SZL on back. I also have a drawing signed Boisgonshire? Any info very much appreciated! Thank You

    ReplyDelete